they're self-defense forces. and that what they're doing in violation of international law just like the nazis were doing. >> i think if i can just clarify, actually, governor, because what she said -- i think this is quite important to make this clear, she talked about how what putin is doing now is similar to what hitler did essentially providing ethnic russians in the crimean region access back to russia and that it was destabilizing. so drawing a direct parallel of hitler's activities in doing similar things before the second world war and what's going on now with putin. >> look. i would tend to agree with secretary clinton. i don't know if i would phrase it that way. i think what is very, very necessary, despite the fact that it's not been a good week or two weeks for u.s./russian relations or for the west and russia, we need to find ways to lower the temperature, deescalate the tension. we have a lot of common issues that we need to deal with with russians. nuclear weapons in iran. we want their help in nor